Urban Edge Properties 2025 Year-End Earnings Call - Pipeline and record lease spreads drove 6% FFO growth
Summary
Urban Edge closed 2025 on a clear growth axis: signed-but-not-open leasing and disciplined redevelopment. FFO as adjusted rose to $1.43 per share, up 6% year over year, supported by a 32% same-space cash rent spread on new leases, record shop occupancy, and accretive capital recycling. Management is leaning into visibility from executed deals, expecting most near-term NOI growth to come from assets they have already signed or under construction.
That said, the playbook is showing stress points. Acquisition competition has compressed cap rate spreads, bad-debt assumptions are lower but tenant fallout and winter-weather costs left mark in Q4, and several large redevelopment wins require time and approvals. The company is funding growth from a strong balance sheet, a larger credit facility, and a conservative dividend increase, while guiding to modest deceleration in 2026 before a re-acceleration in 2027 driven by its SNO pipeline.
Key Takeaways
- FFO as adjusted was $1.43 per share in 2025, up 6% year over year and outpacing the 2023 Investor Day target of $1.35.
- Same-property NOI rose 5% for the full year, with Q4 same-property NOI, including redevelopment, up 2.9%; Q4 was pressured by higher snow removal costs that subtracted about 110 basis points.
- New lease pricing power is exceptional: 58 new leases in 2025 produced a record same-space cash rent spread of 32%, and new lease spreads have exceeded 20% for four consecutive years. Management expects new-lease spreads to remain above 20% in 2026.
- Leasing momentum: shop occupancy hit a record 92.6%, overall leased occupancy was 96.7%, and anchor occupancy ended at 97.5% after taking back one At Home space at Ledgewood Commons.
- Signed-but-not-open (SNO) pipeline remains the chief growth engine: $16 million of new annualized gross rent commenced in 2025, and $22 million of additional annual gross rent remains in the SNO pipeline, equal to roughly 8% of current NOI.
- Management says more than 80% of same-property NOI growth through 2027 is tied to executed leases, LOIs, and contractual increases, supporting their view that 2027 NOI growth should be about 5%.
- Redevelopment execution is a proven value lever: 14 completed projects in 2025 cost $55 million and generated unlevered yields of 19%. Active redevelopment is $166 million with a projected unlevered return of 14%, and $86 million remains to fund.
- Capital recycling continues but with compressing spreads: nearly $600 million of acquisitions at an average 7% cap rate versus $500 million of dispositions at a 5% cap rate. Management acknowledges the spread is narrower than prior years, but still sees growth-rate arbitrage by redeploying proceeds into faster-growing assets.
- Balance sheet and liquidity remain strong: total liquidity of $849 million, no draws on the prior line of credit at year-end, net debt to annualized EBITDA of 5.8x (below 6.5x target). Subsequent amendment added a $700 million facility maturing June 2030 and two $125 million delayed-draw term loans for optionality.
- 2026 guidance: FFO as adjusted $1.47-$1.52 per share (about 4.5% growth at midpoint), same-property NOI guidance 2.75%-3.75%, and credit loss assumptions of 50-75 basis points. The guidance assumes roughly $6 million of SNO rent recognized in 2026, with 75% of that coming in H2, so growth is backloaded.
- Dividend and capital allocation: board approved an 11% dividend increase to $0.84 annualized, implying a roughly 56% FFO payout ratio, with management signaling a preference to preserve free cash flow to fund redevelopment.
- CapEx and spending: $70 million-$80 million expected redevelopment spend in 2026, $20 million maintenance CapEx, and $86 million of redevelopment funding remaining overall.
- Tenant risk and turnover: Saks OFF 5TH closed the East Hanover store that paid about $800,000 of gross rent; Bergen Town Center location is still one of a dozen full-rent OFF 5TH stores. Party-store and soft-goods names caused prior-year concern; management now guides to lower bad-debt expectations reflecting a cleaner tenant mix.
- Major development optionality: Sunrise Mall cleared a Dick’s lease termination, enabling an Amazon distribution center entitlement push on one-third of the site, while larger projects like Bruckner and Yonkers are expected to drive outsized NOI gains when completed.
- Acquisitions remain competitive: management called the market among the most competitive it has seen. Example deal in Bridgewater, MA, expected at a cap north of 7.5% with strong tenants including Chipotle, Shake Shack, and CAVA, and expected to be accretive from day one.
Full Transcript
Speaker 8: As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Areeba Ahmed, Investor Relations Associate. Please go ahead.
Unidentified Speaker, Investor Relations, Urban Edge Properties: Good morning, and welcome to Urban Edge Properties’ 2025 year-end earnings conference call. Joining me today are Jeff Olson, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Jeff Mooallem, Chief Operating Officer; Mark Langer, Chief Financial Officer; Heather Ohlberg, General Counsel; Scott Auster, EVP and Head of Leasing; and Andrea Drazin, Chief Accounting Officer. Please note, today’s discussion may contain forward-looking statements about the company’s views of future events and financial performance, which are subject to numerous assumptions, risks, and uncertainties, and which the company does not undertake to update. Our actual results, financial condition, and business may differ. Please refer to our filings with the SEC, which are also available on our website, for more information about the company. In our discussion today, we will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of these measures to GAAP results are available in our earnings release and our supplemental disclosure package.
At this time, it is my pleasure to introduce our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Jeff Olson.
Jeff Olson, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Urban Edge Properties: Great. Thank you, Areeba, and good morning. 2025 was another strong year for Urban Edge. We generated FFO as adjusted of $1.43 per share, representing 6% growth, driven by the continued execution on our signed, but not open pipeline, and 5% same-property NOI growth. During the year, we continued to set new leasing records. We executed 58 new leases at a record same-space cash rent spread of 32% and achieved record shop occupancy of 92.6%. New lease spreads have now exceeded 20% for 4 consecutive years, reflecting strong demand and limited availability of high-quality retail spaces throughout our market. Given these dynamics, we expect new lease spreads will remain above 20% in 2026. Leverage has clearly shifted to owners of high-quality shopping centers.
Our infill, densely populated portfolio continues to attract leading retailers, especially for anchor space. Nearly all our national retailers are telling us how difficult it is to expand in our markets due to limited supply, supporting our expectation for healthy rent growth in the coming years. Our signed but not open pipeline continues to be a key driver of growth. In 2025, we commenced over $16 million of new annualized gross rent, including openings from Trader Joe’s, Burlington, Ross, Nordstrom Rack, Atlantic Health, Tesla, and many high-performing shop tenants like CAVA, Shake Shack, First Watch, Starbucks, and Club Pilates. Our remaining signed but not open pipeline is expected to generate an additional $22 million of annual gross rent, representing 8% of current NOI. Our development and construction teams continue to be key drivers of value creation.
During the year, we completed 14 projects totaling $55 million, generating unlevered yields of 19%. We currently have $166 million of redevelopment projects underway, expected to generate a 14% unlevered return. Over the past 3 years, FFO as adjusted has grown at an average annual rate of 6% to $1.43 per share in 2025. This exceeds our 2023 Investor Day target of $1.35 per share and ranks among the highest growth rates in our peer group. This outperformance is a testament to several factors, including our best-in-class team, favorable shopping center fundamentals, and accretive capital recycling.
During this period, we acquired nearly $600 million of high-quality shopping centers at an average 7% cap rate, while disposing of approximately $500 million of non-core, lower growth assets at a 5% cap rate. Looking ahead to 2026, our goals include achieving FFO as adjusted growth of at least 4.5%, same-property NOI growth above 3%, and returning leased occupancy toward our historical high of approximately 98%. Our acquisition guidance includes a $54 million shopping center under contract. While we have not included additional acquisitions or dispositions in our guidance, we remain on the hunt for growth opportunities and have several deals in early stages of underwriting. Looking to 2027 and beyond, we expect to increase FFO by at least 4% annually....
Our growth outlook is highly visible, with a significant portion coming from six anchor repositioning projects, including Bruckner, Bergen, Cherry Hill, Hudson, Plaza at Woodbridge, and Yonkers. These projects will include new retailers, including BJ’s, Trader Joe’s, Burlington, HomeGoods, and Ross, and high-quality shop tenants such as Chipotle, Chick-fil-A, T-Mobile, and CAVA. Through 2027, more than 80% of our same-property NOI growth is expected to come from executed leases, LOIs, and contractual rent increases. Based on the expected timing of rent commencements, we believe 2027 NOI growth will be approximately 5%. We are proud of our sector-leading performance over the past three years and remain well-positioned to build on this momentum in 2026. I will now turn it over to our Chief Operating Officer, Jeff Mooallem.
Jeff Mooallem, Chief Operating Officer, Urban Edge Properties: Thanks, Jeff, and good morning. Our fourth quarter results capped an exceptional three-year run at Urban Edge, characterized by continued leasing momentum, disciplined redevelopment, accretive capital recycling, and ongoing enhancements to our tenant roster. Let’s get into some of the details, as well as the reasons why we are so bullish that this run will continue. During the fourth quarter, we signed 47 new leases totaling more than 200,000 sq ft, including 14 new leases at an 11% same space spread and 33 renewals at a 17% spread. That brought our total for the year to 58 new leases for over 360,000 sq ft at a same space spread of 32% and 104 renewals for over 1,000,000 sq ft at a spread of 11%.
On a portfolio our size, any given quarter can have an outlier or two, but a 32% spread on new leases across the entire year is direct evidence of the competitive tenant demand and increased pricing power that we’ve seen across our portfolio. Year-end, same-property leased occupancy was 96.7%. Anchor occupancy ended the year at 97.5%, down 50 basis points from last year, while small shop occupancy rose to a record 92.6%, up 170 basis points from last year. The decline in anchor occupancy is a result of taking back one space, At Home, at Ledgewood Commons, which we expect to retenant soon at a strong overall spread. Nationally, shopping center vacancy remains near historic lows. Supply constraints are especially pronounced in the Northeast, where new construction represents only 0.2% of total supply.
Finding land and securing entitlements is extremely difficult in our markets, and even if you do, current market rents do not support today’s ground-up development costs. We believe the supply, the current supply imbalance will continue, allowing us to negotiate even better lease terms, both economic and noneconomic. As it relates to our Saks OFF 5TH exposure, we had two Saks OFF 5TH locations at the end of 2025. Our location in East Hanover, New Jersey, was paying about $800,000 a year of gross rent and closed in January. The space has excellent visibility in a strong submarket, so we expect to retenant it accretively in short order. Our location at Bergen Town Center is one of only 12 OFF 5TH stores that will remain open at full rent.
That list includes some of the best retail assets in the entire country: Woodbury Common in New York, Buckhead Station in Atlanta, The Gallery at Westbury Plaza on Long Island, and Sawgrass Mills in Florida, just to name a few. Further testament to how special an asset Bergen Town Center is. Turning to development, we stabilized three projects in the fourth quarter, totaling $12 million of investment, as rent commenced for Tesla at Totowa Commons, Dave’s Hot Chicken at Yonkers Gateway, and First Watch at Bergen Town Center. These projects will generate about a 26% yield. We also activated four new projects totaling $28 million, bringing our redevelopment pipeline to $166 million, with a projected unlevered yield of 14%. As usual, nearly all of our active redevelopment projects are tied to executed leases.
At Sunrise Mall in Massapequa, New York, we executed a lease termination with Dick’s Sporting Goods in the fourth quarter, the last tenant remaining at the mall. This clears one of the final hurdles needed to advance the project, and it will enable our application for an Amazon distribution center on approximately one-third of the Sunrise land to advance quickly through the entitlement process. While the Amazon approvals remain our focus, we are in discussions with a variety of users for the remainder of the site, and we hope to have more to announce later this year. Finally, on the capital recycling side, we have executed an agreement to acquire a property in New Jersey for approximately $54 million. The asset is located in a dense, high-income submarket, is 95% leased, and it will generate an accretive yield for us from day one.
Closing is expected by the end of the first quarter, so we should have further details on this property on our next call. With that, I’ll turn it over to our CFO, Mark Langer.
Mark Langer, Chief Financial Officer, Urban Edge Properties: Thank you, Jeff, and good morning, everyone. We delivered another excellent quarter, capping off a very successful 2025.
...FFO, as adjusted, was $0.36 per share for the fourth quarter and $1.43 per share for the full year, representing 6% growth over 2024. Same-property NOI, including redevelopment, increased 2.9% for the fourth quarter and 5% for the full year. This growth was driven primarily by rents commencing from our signed, but not open pipeline and higher net recovery income, partially offset by higher snow removal expenses, which had a 110 basis point negative impact to same-property NOI growth in the quarter. Full-year FFO, as adjusted, benefited from lower recurring G&A as we continued to make progress, reducing costs and extracting operational efficiencies. Our balance sheet remains very well-positioned, with total liquidity of $849 million and no amounts drawn on our line of credit.
During the quarter, we paid off the $23 million mortgage at West End Commons at maturity, using cash on hand. We have no debt maturing until December 2026, with three mortgages aggregating $114 million, coming due at a blended 4% interest rate, which we expect to refinance or repay. We ended 2025 with net debt to annualized EBITDA of 5.8x, below our target of 6.5x, which provides us with flexibility to seek growth opportunities. Subsequent to the quarter, we amended our line of credit with a new $700 million facility maturing in June 2030, with two 6-month extension options, and simultaneously executed two $125 million 12-month delayed draw term loans with a 5-year and 7-year maturity.
While we do not have immediate plans to draw on the term loans, the delayed draw feature allows us to do so for 12 months from closing and provides us with added flexibility as we pursue our growth plans. Turning to our outlook for 2026, our initial FFO, as adjusted per share guidance range, is $1.47-$1.52 per share, reflecting 4.5% growth at the midpoint. Key assumptions within guidance include same-property NOI, including redevelopment growth of 2.75%-3.75%. Our NOI guidance reflects the full year fallout from Saks at East Hanover and assumes credit losses of 50-75 basis points.
On the revenue side, our NOI growth assumes $6 million of gross rent is recognized in 2026 from our SNO pipeline, of which 75% is expected to come online in the second half of the year. Therefore, year-over-year NOI growth is expected to build in the second half of the year, with lower growth rates in the first two quarters. As I noted, we continue to carefully manage G&A expenses. In 2025, our total recurring G&A was $34.5 million, a decrease of 4% from the prior year. In 2026, we expect recurring G&A to be $34.5 million-$36.5 million, an increase of 3% at the midpoint.
As for capital spending, we have $166 million of active redevelopment projects, with $86 million remaining to fund. We expect to spend about $70 million-$80 million during 2026 on these projects and have also budgeted $20 million in maintenance CapEx. As announced in our press release, our board recently approved an 11% increase in our dividend to an annualized rate of $0.84 per share, reflecting an FFO payout ratio of about 56%. We expect the dividend to grow as earnings and taxable income grow, while we focus on preserving free cash flow to fund our active redevelopment pipeline that is generating healthy returns. This new dividend reflects the projected growth in our taxable income in 2026.
In closing, we are well-positioned to continue driving earnings growth by delivering redevelopment and anchor repositioning projects, obtaining attractive economics on new leases, sourcing new acquisitions, and maintaining a strong balance sheet. With that, I’ll turn the call over to the operator for Q&A.
Speaker 8: Thank you. If you’d like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you’d like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Our first question comes from the line of Michael Kamdem. I’m sorry, Ronald Kamdem with Morgan Stanley, please proceed with your question.
Mark Langer, Chief Financial Officer, Urban Edge Properties: Hey, great. Just two quick ones. Starting with shop occupancy, you know, obviously a pretty strong year, 170 basis points year-over-year. Just hoping you could give some comments on sort of what your expectations going forward in terms of how much more upside is there in that number. Thanks.
Jeff Mooallem, Chief Operating Officer, Urban Edge Properties: Hey, Ron, good morning. It’s Jeff Mooallem. Yeah, we’ve messaged pretty consistently that we think that we can get to a steady state somewhere in that 94% range. You know, once you start getting above 94%, you’re really looking at maybe-
... Are you not being as strategic enough with some of your shop space? There’s always gonna be some static vacancy that comes from turning over, you know, vacancies from tenant A to tenant B, and there’s always gonna be some, you know, functionally obsolete, you know, back-of-house storage type space that sits there on our report. When you start backing those out, we feel like 94%-96% is really about as much as we want to push it. This has been an opportunity for our leasing team, now that we’re into this, this rarefied air on shop occupancy, to actually go back around to some of the existing tenants and look at, you know, is this a tenant we can get out, and we can replace at a really healthy spread?
Mark Langer, Chief Financial Officer, Urban Edge Properties: So it’s not just what’s vacant today, but it’s also about, you know, better improving the leasing on what’s actually occupied. So 93-94 is probably a good safe bet for us in 2026.
Mark Langer, Chief Financial Officer, Urban Edge Properties: Helpful. My second question was just, I think capital recycling has been a big theme for you guys. Just maybe talk a little bit more about sort of the acquisition pipeline and some of the cap rates. And then on the disposition side, sort of what are you sort of willing to put on the table this year in the portfolio? Thanks.
Jeff Olson, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Urban Edge Properties: Hi. Good morning, Ron. It’s Jeff Olson. I mean, the acquisition market is maybe as competitive as I’ve seen it, so cap rates are continuing to come down. There’s been a lot of increased interest in the space from institutions. There are a lot of lenders out there, the banks, the insurance companies, that are lending at very attractive rates. So the good news is that it makes our existing assets more valuable and will probably allow us to do more capital recycling than we had originally intended, ’cause we should be able to get better cap rates on what we’re selling. Finding properties at attractive valuations is hard. This property that we found in Bridgewater, we’re super excited about that one.
I think we’re getting that at a cap rate that’s north of 7.5%, and it has decent growth attached to it. The tenants include the likes of Chipotle, Shake Shack, CAVA, and there’s also a health and wellness component to it. I’m hoping that we’re gonna be able to use the proceeds from that asset to serve as a 1031 exchange for a center that is Kohl’s-anchored in New Jersey. That would actually be accretive on a cap rate basis first year as well. If so, it would take Kohl’s from being our number 3 ranked tenant by revenue down to number 7. Then we also have a space in Framingham, Massachusetts, that we’ll take back from Kohl’s that would reduce their exposure even further. So that is the plan as of the moment.
Mark Langer, Chief Financial Officer, Urban Edge Properties: Helpful. That’s it for me. Thanks so much.
Jeff Olson, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Urban Edge Properties: Okay, you bet. Thank you.
Speaker 8: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Michael Goldsmith with UBS. Please proceed with your question.
Michael Goldsmith, Analyst, UBS: Good morning. Thanks a lot for taking my question. Can you walk us through the same-property NOI growth path over the next couple of years? You, you did healthy growth in 2025 of 5%. You’re pointing to 2026 midpoint of 3.25%, and then mentioned earlier, Jeff, that 2027 will be approximately 5%. So can you kind of walk through what are the puts and takes that, that drive the deceleration in 2026, and then to drive the re-acceleration in 2027? Thanks.
Mark Langer, Chief Financial Officer, Urban Edge Properties: Sure. Good morning, Michael. It’s Mark. So let’s just talk from 25 to 26, your first question about the deceleration. Really, two things I would point to that are behind that. First is just the fallout from At Home last year, as well as Saks, that we talked about this year. That’s a little under $2 million of NOI headwind there. And then I think it was actually you had asked, even on our last call, whether there was any one-time benefits that came through in 25, and we talked about 125 basis points of lift for some pretty sizable out-of-period collections that we got in 25, as well as some prior year CAM bills. And so those items, you know, we put more in the one-time bucket.
And look, it’s not unreasonable to think that we could have other, you know, one-time benefits this year, but unless we have visibility of them, we don’t bake them into guide. So between some of the tenant fallout and those one-timers, that will get you to the decel. The second question regarding how do we then pick up in 2027, that’s really the beauty of what Jeff talked about with our visibility from just the SNO pipeline. That, that we can see 80% of NOI growth coming from stuff that’s already executed, that we have to deliver, and that maps, Michael, to what we disclosed kind of in our SNO bridge. So those would be the two big factors.
Michael Goldsmith, Analyst, UBS: Mark, thanks for that. That’s really helpful. And then, just as a follow-up, I think last year you started with a bad debt guidance of 75-100 basis points. I believe in the prepared remarks you talked about 50-75 basis points. So can you talk about what changes this year, and does that reflect just kind of those on the watch list that, you know, the names that you kind of talked about just in the prior response coming out, and that gives you a cleaner portfolio, based on what you see right now for 2026? Thanks.
Mark Langer, Chief Financial Officer, Urban Edge Properties: Yeah, Michael, look, I think it’s a function just of some of the changes in the environment. When we sat here last year, the names that we were, you know, worried about between Party City and Michaels and Joann’s and At Home, which, you know, did file, but took longer than we thought. So really, the bad debt guidance this year is lower just because when we look through our portfolio tenant by tenant and really think about, you know, where is the most elevated risk of someone that’s really going to fall out, we just feel better about the environment with our tenancy today than we did, you know, last year. A little bit on the margin, as you said, you know, the $50-$75.
It’s really just a function of our assessment, you know, looking through the tenancy of the portfolio today.
Michael Griffin, Analyst, Evercore ISI: Thank you very much. Good luck in 2026.
Mark Langer, Chief Financial Officer, Urban Edge Properties: Great. Thank you.
Speaker 8: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Michael Gorman with BTIG. Please proceed with your question.
Michael Gorman, Analyst, BTIG: Yeah, thanks. Good morning, Mark. If I could just go back to the same store for a second. You mentioned the tenant fallout. You also mentioned snow removal costs in the fourth quarter, I thought I heard, and I’m just wondering what you might have baked into the 2026 guidance for the winter storms that have already gone through the Northeast that might be having an impact there.
Mark Langer, Chief Financial Officer, Urban Edge Properties: Yeah, I mean, January was certainly off to a tough start. So, what I can tell you, Michael, is our guidance range this year accounts for our estimate of, you know, what we incurred in January. We’re still going through and closing the books for that. Luckily, February, while brutally cold here in the Northeast, knock on wood, you know, hasn’t had additional snowfall. So we feel that we’ve appropriately provisioned for snow in our guidance.
Michael Gorman, Analyst, BTIG: Okay, that’s helpful. Thanks. And then maybe just switching to the redevelopment pipeline. You talked about it a bit in the prepared remarks. 14 projects completed successfully last year. I think another 13 are going to complete this year. You know, you have a few listed out as potential starts. Can you just talk about additional opportunities, especially if acquisitions are going to remain challenging to maybe accelerate starting new redevelopment projects in the existing portfolio? Thanks.
Jeff Mooallem, Chief Operating Officer, Urban Edge Properties: Yeah. Good morning, Mike. It’s Jeffrey Mooallem. Yeah, I think you can think about our, our redevelopment program in two buckets. One of which is really the kind of blocking and tackling stuff that we consistently get these double-digit yields on, where we’re retenanting an anchor space, we’re adding a pad, we’re maybe expanding a building somewhere. You know, the sort of the, the day-to-day, for lack of a better term, development work that we do here, where we’re repositioning our portfolio and constantly trying to improve it and enhance it. And if we can do that with better tenancy, maybe add some GLA, maybe turn a, a vacant old bank pad into a new restaurant pad and do that in that 14%-16% yield range, we’re, we’re doing that all day long, and that comprises our $166 million redevelopment pipeline.
The second component of it is what we would call sort of the bigger undertakings that frankly don’t, you know, get reported every quarter because they don’t come along every quarter. So things like Sunrise Mall, Jersey City, New Jersey, Hudson Mall, Yonkers, Bruckner. Some of our bigger projects, where we are maybe having to go through a year or two of entitlement work, in order to get to where we want to get to, and they might involve some demolition. They likely will involve an anchor tenant, like a Amazon or like Walmart. Those projects take longer and are more complex and cost more money, but they add significant growth to us when they do come online. The perfect example being in 2027, when we’ll see a lot of our heavy lifting at Bruckner come online.
Mark Langer, Chief Financial Officer, Urban Edge Properties: You know, we generally like to play in those two fields. I don’t think you’re going to see us buying a lot of vacant land and building ground up. As I mentioned in my remarks, it doesn’t really pencil out for anybody these days. When we have the opportunity to add to the portfolio in either a small bucket or a large bucket, that’s what we’re trying to do.
Michael Gorman, Analyst, BTIG: Great. Thank you for the time.
Speaker 8: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Michael Griffin with Evercore ISI. Please proceed with your question.
Michael Griffin, Analyst, Evercore ISI: Great, thanks. Three Michael G’s in a row. Gotta love it. Jeff, my question to you, Jeff, my question to you is just on the leasing on the quarter for new lease spreads came in at about, 11%. I know that, you know, these things can be choppy quarter-over-quarter, and it seems like you’re projecting 20% new lease spreads for the year ahead. But, I mean, any kind of puts and takes or things just on the quarterly number that maybe it came in a little bit lighter, or can you give us some context around that?
Mark Langer, Chief Financial Officer, Urban Edge Properties: It was just a low number overall. It was only on 37,000 sq ft of space, so I think you have to look at it more on a four-quarter rolling basis.
Michael Griffin, Analyst, Evercore ISI: Great. That’s, that’s some helpful context. And then maybe just going back to kind of the capital recycling theme. Is there an opportunity, I guess, you know, within your centers to you potentially carve out and dispose of the, you know, anchor tenant that might be there for a while, but as flat lease escalators, right? You know, I think about like the Home Depot at Hanover Commons, right? High quality tenant in a great center, but probably doesn’t have a lot of growth there. Is that, I guess, a capital recycling avenue that you can then redeploy those proceeds into higher growth opportunities while still maintaining, you know, some of the other tenants within the center?
Mark Langer, Chief Financial Officer, Urban Edge Properties: Yeah, I mean, I think it is. What we don’t want to do is chop up the center. So in East Hanover, because Home Depot shares a parking lot with other tenants, it just makes it more complicated, and we want to be in control. But we absolutely have, you know, freestanding Home Depots and Costcos and Lowe’s that operate independently, where the land is subdivided or it will be. So yes, we do think that’s an attractive source of capital, and we’ve been using that over the last several years. So we have sold some spaces back to Home Depot and others.
Michael Griffin, Analyst, Evercore ISI: Great. That’s it for me. Thanks for the time.
Mark Langer, Chief Financial Officer, Urban Edge Properties: Okay, appreciate it. The next Michael G, please.
Speaker 8: ... Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, if you’d like to join the question queue, please press star one on your telephone keypad. Our next question comes from the line of Floris van Dijkum with Ladenburg Thalmann. Please proceed with your question.
Floris van Dijkum, Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann: Thanks. I’m definitely not a Michael G. So, thanks, guys, for taking my question. So, getting maybe a little bit more into the capital recycling, which you guys have done incredibly well over the last couple of years, mind you. But as cap rates have compressed in your core markets, maybe talk about the cap rates added and the spread that you’ve historically achieved, how is that? It looks like it’s shrinking. If I look at what you did, the assets you sold last year and the asset you bought in Massachusetts, there’s a 50 basis point spread there.
It’s still positive, but you used to be able to get significantly higher spreads on your capital recycling. How do you see that transpiring going forward? Maybe if you can talk a little bit about that and what you think is happening to cap rates.
Jeff Olson, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Urban Edge Properties: Yeah, I mean, I mean, the spreads clearly have narrowed. So I, I think, you know, achieving a 200 basis point spread, as we’ve done, is unlikely. But I think what’s highly likely is that, you know, that, that spread of 50 basis points, call it, that, that we did last year, when you look at the growth rate on what we’re buying versus what we’re selling, I think there may be a 200-300 basis point spread in growth, on an annual basis.
So, we are looking to use capital recycling to accelerate our internal growth by selling some high quality, you know, good credit assets that might have 1% growth, and exchanging those in an accretive manner, initially, with assets that might be growing at 2.5%-3% and might have some opportunities for redevelopment in the future.
Floris van Dijkum, Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann: Thanks, Jeff. But maybe my follow-up, if you could talk a little bit about two assets in particular. One, Gateway, which has very low rents. Curious as to what you’re doing to optimize rents and growth in that asset. And then, Bruckner, which obviously you’re expending a lot of capital, which should be one of your best assets when it’s fully completed. And do you think you can do something like what you’ve done at Bruckner, at Gateway going, you know, I guess was my question.
Jeff Mooallem, Chief Operating Officer, Urban Edge Properties: Hey, Floris, good morning, it’s Jeff. Yeah, let’s take Gateway first. I mean, as you’re right, big piece of property sitting in Everett, Massachusetts, you know, Boston skyline on the horizon, right next to the Encore Hotel, and soon to be right next to the new, Major League Soccer stadium, in New England. So it’s just a fantastic piece of land. Unfortunately, it’s got a lot of tenants with a lot of long-term leases. So if we could snap our fingers and get space back, I think you’d see us, you know, be able to meaningfully move the needle on what that asset could look like, and the rents that we could achieve on it. But, like a lot of these, types of power centers, it’ll be a longer, slower one.
As we get space back, we’re able to retenant it. Would love to add a Trader Joe’s or a Sprouts or a high-end grocer there. We just don’t have a space for them. So that’ll be a, you know, something we continue to talk about internally, but right now it’s pretty much fully leased. There’s one small vacancy that we have a lot of interest on, but until we can get some of the anchor and junior anchor space back, there’s not a lot more we can do there. Bruckner is a perfect example, though, of what happens when an opportunity does present itself. Losing the Kmart there gave us the opportunity to really rethink not just the Kmart and the Toys "R" Us that was in front of it, but the whole shopping center.
If you were to go out to Bruckner today, you would see a pretty heavy construction site. And if you go out to Bruckner a year from now, you would see a Chick-fil-A on the corner open for business, a Chipotle open for business, and hopefully a BJ’s Brewhouse and a Ross Dress for Less open for business. So when you add those kinds of tenants, you’re adding effectively a third grocer with BJ’s to the ShopRite and the Aldi that are already there. When you add those kinds of tenants and you bring in more soft goods, we have Marshalls, we’ve got Burlington. Now we’ll be adding Ross and another soft goods tenant next to Ross.
And then, of course, you add food offerings like we’ll be able to put in, you know, anchored by Chipotle and Chick-fil-A, like, that asset really does become a complete redevelopment and one that we’re incredibly proud of. Jeff likes to say that when he started Urban Edge, it was the ugliest shopping center he ever saw, and then now we all kind of think it’s one of the nicest shopping centers, certainly in, you know, in the five boroughs. So, Bruckner is a good litmus test for where we’d like to get to, but we have to have the space back first to get it.
Jeff Olson, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Urban Edge Properties: To put Bruckner in context, I think our NOI was around $7 million last year at Bruckner, and in 2028, we’re expecting it will increase by $8 million to $15 million. So it’s driving a lot of growth over the next several years.
Floris van Dijkum, Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann: Thanks, guys.
Jeff Mooallem, Chief Operating Officer, Urban Edge Properties: Thanks, Floris.
Speaker 8: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes our question and answer session. I’ll turn the floor back to Mr. Olson for any final comments.
Jeff Olson, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Urban Edge Properties: Great, we appreciate your interest in our company and look forward to seeing you soon. Thank you.
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